58. Verifying It 五十八、为之印证
Teacher Qi Zhijun | 2018-06-23 | Download | AI assisted translation
| 〖公案原文〗 |
[Original Text of the Koan] |
| 师在云居作首座，一日到西积庄，遇一暂到从圆通来，云：“因看首座《颂女子出定》话，有个悟处。特来求首座印证。” |
While the master was serving as head seat at Yunju, he went one day to Xiji Village and encountered a visiting monk who had come from Yuantong. The monk said, “Having read the head seat’s ‘Verse on the Woman Emerging from Samādhi,’ I have gained an insight. I have come especially to ask the head seat to verify it.” |
| 师云：“你去！不是。” |
The master said, “Go away! No.” |
| 僧云：“某甲未说见处，为什么道不是？” |
The monk said, “I have not yet stated my understanding. Why do you say no?” |
| 师再三摇手云：“你去！不是，不是。” |
The master repeatedly waved his hand and said, “Go away! No, no.” |
| 僧懡[忄+罗]而退。 |
The monk withdrew dejectedly. |
| 〖老人眉批〗 |
[The Elder’s Marginal Note] |
| 这就是为之印证也。惜此僧不会，懡[忄+罗]而退，冤哉！ |
This itself was verification for him. Alas, the monk did not understand and withdrew dejectedly. What a pity! |
| 〖锯解秤砣〗 |
[Sawing Apart a Scale Weight] |
| 世尊因文殊至诸佛集处，值诸佛各还本处，唯有一女人近于佛坐而入三昧。文殊乃白佛云：“何此人得近佛，而我不得？”佛告文殊：“汝但觉此女，令从三昧起，汝自问之。 |
Once, when Mañjuśrī arrived at the gathering place of the Buddhas, he found that each Buddha had returned to his own place. Only one woman remained, seated near the Buddha and absorbed in samādhi. Mañjuśrī addressed the Buddha: “Why is this person permitted to sit near the Buddha while I am not?” The Buddha told Mañjuśrī to awaken the woman from samādhi and question her himself. |
| ”文殊绕女人三匝，鸣指一下，乃托至梵天，尽其神力而不能出。世尊曰：“假使百千文殊，亦出此女人定不得。下方过四十二恒河沙国土，有罔明菩萨，能出此女人定。须臾，罔明大士从地涌出，作礼世尊。世尊敕罔明出，罔明却至女子前鸣指一下，女子于是从定而出。 |
Mañjuśrī circumambulated the woman three times and snapped his fingers once. He then transported her to the Brahmā Heaven, but even with all his spiritual powers he could not bring her out. The World-Honored One said, “Even if there were hundreds of thousands of Mañjuśrīs, they could not bring this woman out of samādhi. Below, beyond lands as numerous as the sands of forty-two Ganges rivers, is Bodhisattva Wangming, who can bring her out of samādhi.” Before long, the great being Wangming emerged from the earth and paid homage to the World-Honored One. The World-Honored One instructed Wangming to bring her out. Wangming went before the woman and snapped his fingers once, whereupon she emerged from samādhi. |
| 有出有入的禅定功夫并非正定。无出无入，无动无静，静若处子无异动，动如脱兔不碍静，观空周遍恒沙，视有一物也无，意境阔然，凡圣一如，这才是正定。既然这女子之定不是正定，何劳他二位菩萨托至梵天、涌出于地！所以，大慧禅师为此公案写《颂女子出定》一偈云：“出得出不得，是定非正定。罔明与文殊，丧却穷性命。” |
Meditative skill involving entering and emerging is not right samādhi. In right samādhi there is neither emergence nor entry, neither movement nor stillness. In stillness, one is like a maiden, yet this does not differ from movement; in movement, one is like a fleeing rabbit, yet this does not obstruct stillness. One contemplates emptiness pervading as countless as the sands of the Ganges, while seeing that not a single thing exists; the mental realm is vast and open, and ordinary beings and sages are alike. This alone is right samādhi. Since this woman’s samādhi was not right samādhi, why should it have troubled those two bodhisattvas to transport her to the Brahmā Heaven or emerge from the earth? Therefore Chan Master Dahui wrote a verse on this koan, “Verse on the Woman Emerging from Samādhi”: “Whether she can be brought out or cannot be brought out, this samādhi is not right samādhi. Wangming and Mañjuśrī have lost their very lives in vain.” |
| 大慧宗杲的师父佛果圆悟禅师住持云居道场时，大慧宗杲为第一座。有一天，大慧到附近的西积庄去，遇到一僧从东京法云寺圆通法秀禅师那里来。这僧对大慧说：“因看首座《颂女子出定》话，有个悟处。特来求首座印证。 |
When Chan Master Foguo Yuanwu, the teacher of Dahui Zonggao, was abbot of the Yunju practice center, Dahui Zonggao was the first seat. One day, Dahui went to nearby Xiji Village and encountered a monk who had come from Chan Master Yuantong Faxiu at Fayun Monastery in the Eastern Capital. The monk said to Dahui: “Having read the head seat’s ‘Verse on the Woman Emerging from Samādhi,’ I have gained an insight. I have come especially to ask the head seat to verify it.” |
| ”原来是求印证的。于是，大慧禅师印证他：“你去！不是。”这就是印证吗？是啊！老人批示云：“这就是为之印证也。 |
So he had come seeking verification. Chan Master Dahui therefore verified him: “Go away! No.” Is this verification? Yes! The Elder’s note says: “This itself was verification for him.” |
| ”印证了什么？印证了“是定非正定”啊！你不是看《颂女子出定》话，有个悟处吗？“不是”正定才对呀。若真是无出无入的正定，容不得你立个“悟处”。这僧若是个伶俐汉，只用道一个“领”字即得。 |
What did he verify? He verified that this samādhi was not right samādhi. Had you not read the account of the “Verse on the Woman Emerging from Samādhi” and gained an insight? “Not [right samādhi]” is precisely correct. If it were truly right samādhi, with neither emergence nor entry, it would not allow you to establish an “insight.” If this monk had been quick-witted, he need only have said the single word “Understood.” |
| 谁知他不会大慧意，还粘在他的“见处”上：“某甲未说见处，为什么道不是？”哈哈！刚才是“悟处”，现在是“见处”，看来是不说憋得难受。 |
But who would have expected that he would fail to grasp Dahui’s meaning and still cling to his “understanding”: “I have not yet stated my understanding. Why do you say no?” Ha ha! A moment ago it was an “insight”; now it is an “understanding.” Apparently, he was so stifled that he could not refrain from speaking. |
| 须知那无出无入的正定是不落语言的呀！大慧禅师再次告诉他：“你去！不是，不是。”他还是不能领会，竟茫然不知所措地退去。老人为之叹息：“惜此僧不会，懡[忄+罗]而退，冤哉！”怎么才能不冤？当下打灭那“悟处”、“见处”，无出无入的正定朗然现前，照天照地去也，岂不庆快平生！ |
You must know that right samādhi, with neither emergence nor entry, does not fall within language. Chan Master Dahui again told him, “Go away! No, no.” Still unable to understand, he withdrew in bewilderment, at a complete loss. The Elder sighed over him: “Alas, the monk did not understand and withdrew dejectedly. What a pity!” How can one avoid such a pity? Immediately destroy that “insight” and “understanding,” and the lucid right samādhi of neither emergence nor entry will appear before you, illuminating heaven and earth. Would that not be the joy of a lifetime? |
| 老师，我来扯点葛藤 3193 13:35:20 7/13/02(442) |
Teacher, let me stir up a few complications. 3193 13:35:20 7/13/02(442) |
| 供您参考： lvm 15:59:36 7/13/02(781) |
For your reference: lvm 15:59:36 7/13/02(781) |
| 谢谢老师！ 3193 08:34:43 7/14/02(369) |
Thank you, Teacher! 3193 08:34:43 7/14/02(369) |
| 中途歇不得。要歇只能歇下狂心。 lvm 11:10:46 7/14/02(198) |
You cannot stop halfway. If you are to stop, you can only stop the mad mind. lvm 11:10:46 7/14/02(198) |
| 如果只是一味地歇下去，算不算“悟处”呢？ 3193 14:49:58 7/14/02(无内容) |
If one merely keeps stopping without end, does that count as an “insight”? 3193 14:49:58 7/14/02(no content) |
| 蓦然歇下，便是悟处。何来“一味歇”？ lvm 15:19:49 7/14/02(无内容) |
To stop suddenly is itself the insight. Where does this “merely keep stopping” come from? lvm 15:19:49 7/14/02(no content) |
| 妙！歇就歇了，若还有个一味，又著在歇上了。 3193 15:44:23 7/14/02(无内容) |
Wonderful! Stop, and that is all. If there is still a “merely,” then you are again attached to stopping. 3193 15:44:23 7/14/02(no content) |
| 受教。 yzhj01 08:38:36 7/13/02(无内容) |
Thank you for the instruction. yzhj01 08:38:36 7/13/02(no content) |
| 你去！不是，不是。 袋子 12:41:51 7/13/02(无内容) |
Go away! No, no. Bag 12:41:51 7/13/02(no content) |
| 是个封了口的袋子吗，不及围脖有用？ yzhj01 09:40:13 7/14/02(无内容) |
Is it a bag with its opening sealed shut, less useful than a scarf? yzhj01 09:40:13 7/14/02(no content) |
| 你这袋子，明知我懒，还要说得不明不白。 yzhj01 12:46:22 7/13/02(无内容) |
You bag—knowing full well that I am lazy, you still insist on speaking so obscurely. yzhj01 12:46:22 7/13/02(no content) |
