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102. Even When It Is Raised, One Does Not Understand 一百零二、举也未会

Teacher Qi Zhijun | 2018-06-23 | Download | AI assisted translation

〖公案原文〗 [Original Koan]
师因读洞山《悟道颂》，遂疑云：“有个渠，又有个我，成什么禅？”遂请益湛堂，堂云：“你更举看。”师遂举。堂云：“你举也未会。”便推出。 While reading Dongshan’s “Verse on Awakening,” the Master became doubtful and said, “There is a ‘him,’ and there is an ‘I’—what kind of Chan is this?” He therefore sought instruction from Zhan Tang, who said, “Recite it again.” The Master then recited it. Zhan Tang said, “Even as you recite it, you have not understood.” He then pushed him out.
〖锯解秤砣〗 [Sawing Apart a Scale Weight]
洞山禅师《悟道颂》云：“切忌从他觅，迢迢与我疏。我今独自往，处处得逢渠。渠今正是我，我今不是渠。应须恁么会，方得契如如。” Chan Master Dongshan’s “Verse on Awakening” says: “Above all, do not seek it from another; it is far removed from me. I now go on alone, yet everywhere I encounter him. He is now precisely I, yet I am not he. One must understand it in this way to accord with suchness.”
大慧宗杲禅师读此颂有疑：“有个渠，又有个我，成什么禅？”就去请教湛堂禅师。湛堂说：“你将此颂举说一遍。”大慧便举说《悟道颂》：“切忌从他觅……”湛堂不等他举完，便说：“你举也未会。”接着就把大慧禅师推了出去。 Chan Master Dahui Zonggao had doubts after reading this verse: “There is a ‘him,’ and there is an ‘I’—what kind of Chan is this?” So he went to consult Chan Master Zhan Tang. Zhan Tang said, “Recite this verse once.” Dahui then began to recite the “Verse on Awakening”: “Above all, do not seek it from another …” Before he had finished, Zhan Tang said, “Even as you recite it, you have not understood.” Then he pushed Chan Master Dahui out.
其实，湛堂已将“渠今正是我，我今不是渠”和盘托出，并已令大慧契入。已经圆满地回答了大慧的问题： In fact, Zhan Tang had already fully revealed the meaning of “He is now precisely I, yet I am not he,” and had enabled Dahui to enter into accord with it. He had already answered Dahui’s question completely:
堂云：“你更举看。”师遂举——渠今正是我。 Zhan Tang said, “Recite it again.” The Master then recited it—“He is now precisely I.”
堂云：“你举也未会。”便推出——我今不是渠。 Zhan Tang said, “Even as you recite it, you have not understood.” He then pushed him out—“Yet I am not he.”
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